Comments on: Cron for CFML. Again https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/ Thoughts, rants, and even some code from the mind of Barney Boisvert. Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:58:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ciaran Archer https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-253123 Ciaran Archer Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:01:27 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-253123 After the 9.0.1 update broke scheduled tasks (for us at least - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3870895/coldfusion-neo-cron-xml-has-been-modified-when-it-hasnt-been) we decided to buy VisualCron, a Windows scheduler that runs on a server as a service and can execute tasks in almost any way possible. We've found it very stable so far, and it has an API (through .NET admittedly) that can be interrogated for task run stats etc. If people are looking for alternatives I'd recommend it. I've heard CF X is going to have an update to the scheduled task engine too, so that should be interesting too. Cheers, Ciaran After the 9.0.1 update broke scheduled tasks (for us at least – http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3870895/coldfusion-neo-cron-xml-has-been-modified-when-it-hasnt-been) we decided to buy VisualCron, a Windows scheduler that runs on a server as a service and can execute tasks in almost any way possible.

We've found it very stable so far, and it has an API (through .NET admittedly) that can be interrogated for task run stats etc. If people are looking for alternatives I'd recommend it.

I've heard CF X is going to have an update to the scheduled task engine too, so that should be interesting too.

Cheers,
Ciaran

]]> By: Luis Aragon https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-253042 Luis Aragon Wed, 13 Apr 2011 18:46:02 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-253042 I'd love to know how you handled this task. It's something that I'm struggling with now. :( I'd love to know how you handled this task. It's something that I'm struggling with now. :(

]]> By: Ciaran Archer https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-218044 Ciaran Archer Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:42:53 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-218044 I especially agree with the way you have to punch a hole through your application security. Secret URL keys are messy and feel so ... wrong. The 60 second limit is also ridiculous. The worst thing is it doesn't have to be like this! CF scheduler can handle per-second scheduling - we do it all the time. Right now it requires an XML hack to the neo-cron.xml file. It's obtuse and ugly but it works. I especially agree with the way you have to punch a hole through your application security. Secret URL keys are messy and feel so … wrong.

The 60 second limit is also ridiculous. The worst thing is it doesn't have to be like this! CF scheduler can handle per-second scheduling – we do it all the time. Right now it requires an XML hack to the neo-cron.xml file. It's obtuse and ugly but it works.

]]> By: Mark Mandel https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-217920 Mark Mandel Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:49:24 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-217920 You don't want to use my Dynamic Proxy in Javaloader to ease the Java->CFML bridge? It would make things a lot easier for you. Or is there an area in which it can be improved that would help you out? (Totally agreed that CFCProxy is not that great) You don't want to use my Dynamic Proxy in Javaloader to ease the Java->CFML bridge?

It would make things a lot easier for you.

Or is there an area in which it can be improved that would help you out?

(Totally agreed that CFCProxy is not that great)

]]> By: Sami Hoda https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-217915 Sami Hoda Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:51:18 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-217915 I have felt this pain for years. You are not alone. One example, the CFAdmin did not have a pause for scheduled tasks until I bugged and begged for it. I have felt this pain for years. You are not alone.

One example, the CFAdmin did not have a pause for scheduled tasks until I bugged and begged for it.

]]> By: Ryan https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-217913 Ryan Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:06:35 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-217913 I agree with you, the lack of a good scheduler can be a pain. An admin that I work with rewrote the old scheduler he used (BMC Control-M) as a CF application. Sadly, he should have to rewrite this if there was a good interface for it already. Are you planning on releasing your new code by any chance? I agree with you, the lack of a good scheduler can be a pain. An admin that I work with rewrote the old scheduler he used (BMC Control-M) as a CF application. Sadly, he should have to rewrite this if there was a good interface for it already.

Are you planning on releasing your new code by any chance?

]]> By: Matt Woodward https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-217901 Matt Woodward Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:59:03 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-217901 There's a cron plugin for OpenBD: http://wiki.openbluedragon.org/wiki/index.php/Category:CronPlugin There's a cron plugin for OpenBD:
http://wiki.openbluedragon.org/wiki/index.php/Category:CronPlugin

]]> By: Kurt Wiersma https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-217897 Kurt Wiersma Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:21:27 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-217897 When I was reading about Grails it sounded like their scheduler was pretty advanced and cron like while allowing you to execute groovy code without an http request. I believe it was all built on top of Quartz or Spring's scheduling services. Personally I really like that CFML allows you to avoid the compile - reload container - debug cycle. It one reason why I have continue to look into Groovy/Grails as they seem to be attempting to make it more dynamic for reloading your application much like CFML. When I was reading about Grails it sounded like their scheduler was pretty advanced and cron like while allowing you to execute groovy code without an http request. I believe it was all built on top of Quartz or Spring's scheduling services.

Personally I really like that CFML allows you to avoid the compile – reload container – debug cycle. It one reason why I have continue to look into Groovy/Grails as they seem to be attempting to make it more dynamic for reloading your application much like CFML.

]]> By: Aaron Greenlee https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/comment-page-1/#comment-217895 Aaron Greenlee Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:53:49 +0000 http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2010/08/16/cron-for-cfml-again/#comment-217895 No, you are not the only one. No, you are not the only one.

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