Comments on: Transaction Advice https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/ Thoughts, rants, and even some code from the mind of Barney Boisvert. Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:58:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: barneyb https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-13275 barneyb Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:55:15 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-13275 Hua, Yeah, my server crashed a while ago, and while I was able to extract the raw blog posts/comments from the old system, I haven't gone through and fixed all the broken links and such. If you provide an email address, I'll send you the zip directly. Hua,

Yeah, my server crashed a while ago, and while I was able to extract the raw blog posts/comments from the old system, I haven't gone through and fixed all the broken links and such. If you provide an email address, I'll send you the zip directly.

]]> By: hua https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-13267 hua Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:41:22 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-13267 download link seems to be broken. download link seems to be broken.

]]> By: Barney https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-463 Barney Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:18:03 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-463 1. cool. 2. Fair enough. You'll get an email shortly. 1. cool.

2. Fair enough. You'll get an email shortly.

]]> By: Sean Corfield https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-462 Sean Corfield Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:16:26 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-462 1. Yes, probably. 2. Sorry, that would be under NDA :) 1. Yes, probably.

2. Sorry, that would be under NDA :)

]]> By: Barney https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-461 Barney Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:38:24 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-461 If I released it under the ASL, would you use it? If so, what for? An answer to the second question will get you an ASL licensed copy. ;) If I released it under the ASL, would you use it? If so, what for? An answer to the second question will get you an ASL licensed copy. ;)

]]> By: Sean Corfield https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-460 Sean Corfield Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:30:56 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-460 There is no form to fill in to download FB5. All the Fusebox downloads are direct now and have been for about six months I think. Consider this comment thread a request to provide your transaction advice under ASL2 :) There is no form to fill in to download FB5. All the Fusebox downloads are direct now and have been for about six months I think.

Consider this comment thread a request to provide your transaction advice under ASL2 :)

]]> By: Barney https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-459 Barney Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:10:59 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-459 Perhaps the second half of the middle sentance in that paragraph? "... forcing people to ask for a commercial-friendly license will let me get a feel for how it's being used." I've released stuff under several different licenses (GPL, LGPL, and MIT). Anyone who wants an different license for it can get it for the cost of an email. The reason was strictly leveraging the GPL's restrictiveness to make people send those emails. I could have accomplished a similar thing by only allowing downloads for people who fill in a form, but petty as it is, that annoys the hell out of me (I still haven't download an official FB5 distro for this reason, though I just checked and am glad to see the requirement is gone now). This way the "price of admission" is only paid by those that have to (i.e. need a commercial friendly license). Perhaps the second half of the middle sentance in that paragraph? "… forcing people to ask for a commercial-friendly license will let me get a feel for how it's being used."

I've released stuff under several different licenses (GPL, LGPL, and MIT). Anyone who wants an different license for it can get it for the cost of an email. The reason was strictly leveraging the GPL's restrictiveness to make people send those emails.

I could have accomplished a similar thing by only allowing downloads for people who fill in a form, but petty as it is, that annoys the hell out of me (I still haven't download an official FB5 distro for this reason, though I just checked and am glad to see the requirement is gone now). This way the "price of admission" is only paid by those that have to (i.e. need a commercial friendly license).

]]> By: Sean Corfield https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-458 Sean Corfield Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:00:39 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-458 Yeah, I read it but my point was that a lot of places simply won't even download it to see whether or not it is worthwhile... GPL is a VERY restrictive license from a commercial companies point of view and I had hoped that Open Source CFers would have taken all the recent discussions about licenses to heart and been very wary of adopting GPL or LGPL. Maybe you could explain in more detail why you picked GPL as opposed to ASL or CPL or...? Yeah, I read it but my point was that a lot of places simply won't even download it to see whether or not it is worthwhile… GPL is a VERY restrictive license from a commercial companies point of view and I had hoped that Open Source CFers would have taken all the recent discussions about licenses to heart and been very wary of adopting GPL or LGPL.

Maybe you could explain in more detail why you picked GPL as opposed to ASL or CPL or…?

]]> By: Barney https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-457 Barney Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:00:54 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-457 Sean, You did read the rest of that sentence, right? The part where I said "if you need a different license, just let me know", and then continue with "commercial licenses will not require monetary compensation, just an email with some info about how you're using it." Sean,

You did read the rest of that sentence, right? The part where I said "if you need a different license, just let me know", and then continue with "commercial licenses will not require monetary compensation, just an email with some info about how you're using it."

]]> By: Sean Corfield https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/22/transaction-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-456 Sean Corfield Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:04:09 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=192#comment-456 You realize that almost no commercial organization will be able to use this code under GPL? Many will take a look at the license and simply not download it at all. Even using LGPL is better than GPL and many companies don't like LGPL either (that's why Joe is under such pressure to move Model-Glue: Unity to ASL instead). You realize that almost no commercial organization will be able to use this code under GPL? Many will take a look at the license and simply not download it at all. Even using LGPL is better than GPL and many companies don't like LGPL either (that's why Joe is under such pressure to move Model-Glue: Unity to ASL instead).

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