Comments on: Debuggers? https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/08/01/debuggers/ Thoughts, rants, and even some code from the mind of Barney Boisvert. Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:58:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Eric Laney https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/08/01/debuggers/comment-page-1/#comment-384 Eric Laney Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:40:48 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=175#comment-384 I used the debugger constantly in the days of CF5, and I was heartstruck that ColdFusion MX didn't support it. I then had the opportunity to talk with the product manager for ColdFusion (both server and Studio). When I asked him about the possibility of a future debugger in ColdFusion MX, he simply said, "well, we found that there just weren't that many people using the debugger." Apparently, *I* was the one in the minority. I used the debugger constantly in the days of CF5, and I was heartstruck that ColdFusion MX didn't support it. I then had the opportunity to talk with the product manager for ColdFusion (both server and Studio). When I asked him about the possibility of a future debugger in ColdFusion MX, he simply said, "well, we found that there just weren't that many people using the debugger."

Apparently, *I* was the one in the minority.

]]> By: Ben Nadel https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/08/01/debuggers/comment-page-1/#comment-383 Ben Nadel Wed, 02 Aug 2006 15:12:16 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=175#comment-383 I have not gotten into CFLog and CFTrace much (and have not worked on HUGE projects) but I come from the mentality of "code-a-bit, test-a-bit". I test things right when I build them and have a very methodical way of testing ranges of values in an attempt to break what I build. I don't know much about Unit testing but I think its basically a programatic way of doing what I do manually? But anyway, long and short of it is that I too do not feel the need for a debugger. As far as I am concerned CFDump pretty much solved most debugging problems I ever needed. I have not gotten into CFLog and CFTrace much (and have not worked on HUGE projects) but I come from the mentality of "code-a-bit, test-a-bit". I test things right when I build them and have a very methodical way of testing ranges of values in an attempt to break what I build. I don't know much about Unit testing but I think its basically a programatic way of doing what I do manually?

But anyway, long and short of it is that I too do not feel the need for a debugger. As far as I am concerned CFDump pretty much solved most debugging problems I ever needed.

]]> By: Terry Schmitt https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/08/01/debuggers/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Terry Schmitt Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:13:48 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=175#comment-382 I rarely used Studio's debugger. Now I generally have some sort of debugger in my CF apps that I can enable to dump some key data and the CF errors. The one place that I really find a debugger useful is with JavaScript. This is where Firefox and Firebug rock! I rarely used Studio's debugger. Now I generally have some sort of debugger in my CF apps that I can enable to dump some key data and the CF errors. The one place that I really find a debugger useful is with JavaScript. This is where Firefox and Firebug rock!

]]> By: Sean Corfield https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/08/01/debuggers/comment-page-1/#comment-381 Sean Corfield Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:55:24 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=175#comment-381 p.s. cfcUnit with the ant task makes for a great automated harness for running unit tests :) p.s. cfcUnit with the ant task makes for a great automated harness for running unit tests :)

]]> By: Sean Corfield https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/08/01/debuggers/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Sean Corfield Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:54:51 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=175#comment-380 It's so good to hear someone else who doesn't see the value in step-thru debuggers! I haven't used a source level debugger for... um... ten years at least, maybe longer than that... Like you I found that using better test harnesses and, if necessary, instrumenting my code with logging (which can be externally configured on or off) meant I just stopped needing a debugger. It's so good to hear someone else who doesn't see the value in step-thru debuggers! I haven't used a source level debugger for… um… ten years at least, maybe longer than that…

Like you I found that using better test harnesses and, if necessary, instrumenting my code with logging (which can be externally configured on or off) meant I just stopped needing a debugger.

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