Comments on: Macromedia, Blackstone, and the Little Guy https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2005/02/06/macromedia-blackstone-and-the-little-guy/ Thoughts, rants, and even some code from the mind of Barney Boisvert. Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:58:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Maxim Porges https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2005/02/06/macromedia-blackstone-and-the-little-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Maxim Porges Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:32:32 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=80#comment-88 I'm with you on the licensing, Barney. Luckily, dropping $60,000+ on CF 7 licensing and support is a barely noticable expense to my employer (you should see what our Oracle licenses cost...), but if I was an ISV or small shop I'd certainly be feeling the pain. I too wish Macromedia all the best, but going from $1,200 to $6,000 between two versions is kind of extreme. It would be nice if they had a la carte pricing for users to pick and choose between features for their own custom version. - max I'm with you on the licensing, Barney. Luckily, dropping $60,000+ on CF 7 licensing and support is a barely noticable expense to my employer (you should see what our Oracle licenses cost…), but if I was an ISV or small shop I'd certainly be feeling the pain.

I too wish Macromedia all the best, but going from $1,200 to $6,000 between two versions is kind of extreme. It would be nice if they had a la carte pricing for users to pick and choose between features for their own custom version.

- max

]]> By: Steve Bryant https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2005/02/06/macromedia-blackstone-and-the-little-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Steve Bryant Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:55:54 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=80#comment-87 Note that the reporting feature will run on Linux. It is only the desktop tool to generate the .cfr that runs on Windows only (as does HomeSite). Note that the reporting feature will run on Linux. It is only the desktop tool to generate the .cfr that runs on Windows only (as does HomeSite).

]]> By: Barney https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2005/02/06/macromedia-blackstone-and-the-little-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Barney Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:57:56 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=80#comment-86 Ray, the reporting is pretty cool, that was pure oversight that I missed it in my post. I can't say I've ever had much problem making reports with HTML/CSS, but having a GUI to do it is nice, and saving to PDF might be useful too. But keep in mind that it's windows only, and since I run Linux, it's of no use to me. Geoff, yes, app events are very valuable, and if you're starting new apps that can leverage it without reworking, probably worth the cash for that improvement alone. But when you've got a bunch of servers to upgrade, and a small number of large applications that won't be immediately rewritten to leverage the new features, it's a big expense for reasonably little benefit. And since we're already going have to buy an Enterprise license for our development server (for no additional functionality, just to deal with their changed licensing), there's no rush to send Macromedia another $5000 without real benefits. Ray, the reporting is pretty cool, that was pure oversight that I missed it in my post. I can't say I've ever had much problem making reports with HTML/CSS, but having a GUI to do it is nice, and saving to PDF might be useful too. But keep in mind that it's windows only, and since I run Linux, it's of no use to me.

Geoff, yes, app events are very valuable, and if you're starting new apps that can leverage it without reworking, probably worth the cash for that improvement alone. But when you've got a bunch of servers to upgrade, and a small number of large applications that won't be immediately rewritten to leverage the new features, it's a big expense for reasonably little benefit. And since we're already going have to buy an Enterprise license for our development server (for no additional functionality, just to deal with their changed licensing), there's no rush to send Macromedia another $5000 without real benefits.

]]> By: Ray Buechler https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2005/02/06/macromedia-blackstone-and-the-little-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Ray Buechler Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:28:18 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=80#comment-85 Barney, How about the reporting features? Those are huge and in my opinion the single greatest enhancement in Blackstone. They are also included in the standard edition. Ray Barney,

How about the reporting features? Those are huge and in my opinion the single greatest enhancement in Blackstone. They are also included in the standard edition.

Ray

]]> By: Geoff Bowers https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2005/02/06/macromedia-blackstone-and-the-little-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Geoff Bowers Mon, 07 Feb 2005 08:50:54 +0000 http://barneyb.com/barneyblog/?p=80#comment-84 Seriously mate, talk about glass half full. Application events are worth 650 alone, let alone all the other schwag. Seriously mate, talk about glass half full. Application events are worth 650 alone, let alone all the other schwag.

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