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	<title>Comments on: The Dragon is at it Again</title>
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	<description>Thoughts, rants, and even some code from the mind of Barney Boisvert.</description>
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		<title>By: charlie arehart</title>
		<link>https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2004/12/09/the-dragon-is-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie arehart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barney, BlueDragon certainly lets you run web services (publish via CFCs and consume via CFINVOKE/CFOBJECT/CreateObject). I&#039;ll drop you a mail off-line to work with you to see what&#039;s up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barney, BlueDragon certainly lets you run web services (publish via CFCs and consume via CFINVOKE/CFOBJECT/CreateObject). I'll drop you a mail off-line to work with you to see what's up.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Boisvert</title>
		<link>https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2004/12/09/the-dragon-is-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Boisvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you propose is definitely right on.  However, it&#039;s not quite what I was saying.  I&#039;d have needed to test whether the functionality worked before starting any of the architecture/design of the app, to ensure that the server supported it.  I.e. CFML lets you _____, lets make sure BD supports doing it.  Do that for each piece of functionality needed for the app, and then design the app.  That&#039;s a little different than TDD, but on the same thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you propose is definitely right on.  However, it's not quite what I was saying.  I'd have needed to test whether the functionality worked before starting any of the architecture/design of the app, to ensure that the server supported it.  I.e. CFML lets you _____, lets make sure BD supports doing it.  Do that for each piece of functionality needed for the app, and then design the app.  That's a little different than TDD, but on the same thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not really &quot;back-assward&quot;. I call it Test Driven Development (TDD) ;)

In addition to TDD, I set up an automated testing suite using ANT.  I recommend this regardless if you&#039;re using BD or not.  For Tracking Tools I wanted to support Win/Mac/Linux, MYSQL/MSSQL/ORACLE/Cloudscape, CFMX/BD.  The only way to keep on top of all this is was to implement an automated test suite.  It takes some time to set up but once you have it in place it&#039;s sweet.  I push a button and I can test the app across all those environments.  For me it was like source control. Before you use it it seems like a pain/hassle, after you use it you wonder how you got along without it and there&#039;s no going back.  

-Phil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's not really "back-assward". I call it Test Driven Development (TDD) ;)</p>
<p>In addition to TDD, I set up an automated testing suite using ANT.  I recommend this regardless if you're using BD or not.  For Tracking Tools I wanted to support Win/Mac/Linux, MYSQL/MSSQL/ORACLE/Cloudscape, CFMX/BD.  The only way to keep on top of all this is was to implement an automated test suite.  It takes some time to set up but once you have it in place it's sweet.  I push a button and I can test the app across all those environments.  For me it was like source control. Before you use it it seems like a pain/hassle, after you use it you wonder how you got along without it and there's no going back.  </p>
<p>-Phil</p>
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