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	<title>Comments on: BlueDragon Update (a nice one!)</title>
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		<title>By: Barney</title>
		<link>https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2004/12/09/bluedragon-update-a-nice-one/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert: The main feature of BD that I like is that it&#039;s free.  I&#039;d rather have CFMX, but since this is a personal box that I make zero money with, that $1200 is a pretty steep price.  Consequently, BD is worth some hassles, because it&#039;ll save me that cash.

Vince: The benefit of the doubt is primarily based on prior experience.  Prior experience has shown that BD is usually the culprit, so why shouldn&#039;t I assume that it&#039;s the cuplrit in future error situations, especially when regarding functionality that is tightly bound to other functionality known to be buggy?

I don&#039;t want to get into an argument about it, but getting the benefit of the doubt requires earning the benefit of the doubt.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: The main feature of BD that I like is that it's free.  I'd rather have CFMX, but since this is a personal box that I make zero money with, that $1200 is a pretty steep price.  Consequently, BD is worth some hassles, because it'll save me that cash.</p>
<p>Vince: The benefit of the doubt is primarily based on prior experience.  Prior experience has shown that BD is usually the culprit, so why shouldn't I assume that it's the cuplrit in future error situations, especially when regarding functionality that is tightly bound to other functionality known to be buggy?</p>
<p>I don't want to get into an argument about it, but getting the benefit of the doubt requires earning the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Bonfanti</title>
		<link>https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2004/12/09/bluedragon-update-a-nice-one/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Bonfanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we seem to be going public with this, and I&#039;m the one who &quot;blasted&quot; Barney (though &quot;blasted&quot; isn&#039;t the term I&#039;d use), I&#039;ll weigh in with my two cents.

My complaint to Barney was over yesterday&#039;s &quot;The Dragon is at it Again&quot; entry, and not any of his previous entries. My issue with yesterday&#039;s entry is that he blasted BlueDragon for an error that was apparent to me wasn&#039;t BlueDragon&#039;s fault at all (based on information he sent me privately that wasn&#039;t in the blog).

Well, sure enough, it turned out not to be a BlueDragon problem (see today&#039;s &quot;User Error!!!&quot; entry--thanks, Barney, for posting this update). In fact, the problem was caused by CFMX for not uninstalling cleanly.

I expect Barney to be honest and post any and all problems he has with BlueDragon. But I&#039;d also like to ask for the benefit of the doubt, when doubt exists, before automatically blaming BlueDragon for whatever issue he&#039;s having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we seem to be going public with this, and I'm the one who "blasted" Barney (though "blasted" isn't the term I'd use), I'll weigh in with my two cents.</p>
<p>My complaint to Barney was over yesterday's "The Dragon is at it Again" entry, and not any of his previous entries. My issue with yesterday's entry is that he blasted BlueDragon for an error that was apparent to me wasn't BlueDragon's fault at all (based on information he sent me privately that wasn't in the blog).</p>
<p>Well, sure enough, it turned out not to be a BlueDragon problem (see today's "User Error!!!" entry&#8211;thanks, Barney, for posting this update). In fact, the problem was caused by CFMX for not uninstalling cleanly.</p>
<p>I expect Barney to be honest and post any and all problems he has with BlueDragon. But I'd also like to ask for the benefit of the doubt, when doubt exists, before automatically blaming BlueDragon for whatever issue he's having.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Symonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Symonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think anything you said was out of line.  If anything I think you&#039;ve been pretty patient overall.  After the 3rd time having BD not do what I needed it to do I would&#039;ve chucked it completely!  But I tend to be an impatient guy :)  I&#039;d rather just shell out the $$ for CFMX Standard and be confident that it works the way it should than waste time troubleshooting.  CFMX does everything I need so for my company that decision is easy.  I realize that BD has some definite benefits though and the thought of BD for .NET is kind of cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't think anything you said was out of line.  If anything I think you've been pretty patient overall.  After the 3rd time having BD not do what I needed it to do I would've chucked it completely!  But I tend to be an impatient guy :)  I'd rather just shell out the $$ for CFMX Standard and be confident that it works the way it should than waste time troubleshooting.  CFMX does everything I need so for my company that decision is easy.  I realize that BD has some definite benefits though and the thought of BD for .NET is kind of cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney</title>
		<link>https://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2004/12/09/bluedragon-update-a-nice-one/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and no.  It&#039;s definitely up to me to post whatever the heck I want on my blog, but at the same time, slandering BD for bugs in a beta product without giving them advance warning, let alone a chance to help resolve issues, isn&#039;t really fair to them.  I&#039;ve developed a relationship with New Atlanta over the past couple months that has been fruitful to both parties (though probably moreso to them), and the value of that relationship weighs into the balance as well.

As for whether I deserve being yelled at for complaining about their product, I&#039;m not going to say it was warranted, but I&#039;m not going to say it wasn&#039;t either.  That&#039;s a decision that can only rest in NA&#039;s PR/Customer Support department, and how they want to relate to outspoken users (good or bad) of their product.  My comments justified a return outburst, but IMHO, the return outburst should never have come from a business trying to win over a convert (which I still consider myself).

All that being said, I&#039;m not going to complain any less about stuff that&#039;s broken.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and no.  It's definitely up to me to post whatever the heck I want on my blog, but at the same time, slandering BD for bugs in a beta product without giving them advance warning, let alone a chance to help resolve issues, isn't really fair to them.  I've developed a relationship with New Atlanta over the past couple months that has been fruitful to both parties (though probably moreso to them), and the value of that relationship weighs into the balance as well.</p>
<p>As for whether I deserve being yelled at for complaining about their product, I'm not going to say it was warranted, but I'm not going to say it wasn't either.  That's a decision that can only rest in NA's PR/Customer Support department, and how they want to relate to outspoken users (good or bad) of their product.  My comments justified a return outburst, but IMHO, the return outburst should never have come from a business trying to win over a convert (which I still consider myself).</p>
<p>All that being said, I'm not going to complain any less about stuff that's broken.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Corfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Corfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that if you&#039;re having genuine problems with a product, it&#039;s fair to blog about those problems. I don&#039;t think New Atlanta should have blasted you privately about your blog posts - you don&#039;t &quot;deserve&quot; that at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that if you're having genuine problems with a product, it's fair to blog about those problems. I don't think New Atlanta should have blasted you privately about your blog posts &#8211; you don't "deserve" that at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 21:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, sounds like you&#039;re having a love/hate relationship with the product. Reminds me of being married! hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, sounds like you're having a love/hate relationship with the product. Reminds me of being married! hehe</p>
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