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	<title>Comments on: Subclipse vs. Subversive</title>
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	<description>Thoughts, rants, and even some code from the mind of Barney Boisvert.</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel Rosenstark</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-143707</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rosenstark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Barney, thanks for your comment. I&#039;ll keep testing and post here again if I see the light with Subeclipse, or if I have more details on the problems that I&#039;ve been having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barney, thanks for your comment. I'll keep testing and post here again if I see the light with Subeclipse, or if I have more details on the problems that I've been having.</p>
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		<title>By: barneyb</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-143630</link>
		<dc:creator>barneyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve shared your experience with Subclipse or Subversive.  Switching sometimes takes a while (most of our working copies are in the 400MB range), but I&#039;ve never had it crash out.  In any case, you should be able to issue a Cleanup command, and then reswitch and pick up where you left off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>I can't say I've shared your experience with Subclipse or Subversive.  Switching sometimes takes a while (most of our working copies are in the 400MB range), but I've never had it crash out.  In any case, you should be able to issue a Cleanup command, and then reswitch and pick up where you left off.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Rosenstark</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-143582</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rosenstark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been working with Subeclipse for the last few weeks and we do a LOT of branching and switching (we use a full branch for every modification) and I must say that for anything beyond commits, I use Tortoise. Subeclipse does weird stuff or crashes on any kind of branch op... I could document the behavior but I&#039;m usually too busy deleting my entire build, putting a new one back in place, and doing an update from SVN.

TortoiseSVN is one of a handful of apps that keep me using Windows (for now), although soon it will be relegated to a VirtualBox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been working with Subeclipse for the last few weeks and we do a LOT of branching and switching (we use a full branch for every modification) and I must say that for anything beyond commits, I use Tortoise. Subeclipse does weird stuff or crashes on any kind of branch op&#8230; I could document the behavior but I'm usually too busy deleting my entire build, putting a new one back in place, and doing an update from SVN.</p>
<p>TortoiseSVN is one of a handful of apps that keep me using Windows (for now), although soon it will be relegated to a VirtualBox.</p>
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		<title>By: sNop</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-142507</link>
		<dc:creator>sNop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ony one thing which I lack is, that in compare dialog(from commit dialog) havn&#039;t maximize button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ony one thing which I lack is, that in compare dialog(from commit dialog) havn't maximize button.</p>
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		<title>By: sNop</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-142506</link>
		<dc:creator>sNop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither really. But I havn&#039;t used branching/taging yet, but I&#039;m using this features very often, so when I will have any practice about branching/taging then I post here my point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither really. But I havn't used branching/taging yet, but I'm using this features very often, so when I will have any practice about branching/taging then I post here my point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: barneyb</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-142501</link>
		<dc:creator>barneyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sNop,

You haven&#039;t had any problems with what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sNop,</p>
<p>You haven't had any problems with what?</p>
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		<title>By: sNop</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-142467</link>
		<dc:creator>sNop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using newset Subversive and I haven&#039;t any problems with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm using newset Subversive and I haven't any problems with this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jevon</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-116364</link>
		<dc:creator>Jevon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review... I too was curious about switching over. I do wish Subclipse had the functionality that TortoiseSVN does... it especially struggles with deleting files and I&#039;ve had quite a few times when it&#039;s managed to eat itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review&#8230; I too was curious about switching over. I do wish Subclipse had the functionality that TortoiseSVN does&#8230; it especially struggles with deleting files and I've had quite a few times when it's managed to eat itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolaus Heger</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-115454</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikolaus Heger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried subversive but switched back to subclipse because of a single issue which happened to make subversive impossible to use for me.

svn has this feature where it shows &quot;all changed paths&quot; of a checkin. You can turn off the view that displays this in the history view. When off, subclipse does not retrieve this information. The bug in subversive is that it does retrieve this information regardless. In our case, the entire source was checked into the repository in rev 9. The change set therefore includes all paths in our repository, about 30MB worth of data if pasted into a text file. So subversive would go and download 30MB worth of data every time I wanted to look at the history of a file, and it affected all files since they are all part of the first change set. That made subversive unusable for me. 

The one feature I am missing from both is a &quot;move change to branch&quot; command which quickly and easily can move a change in trunk to a path. The equivalent of svn merge, but with automatic tag/branch detection and automatically filling in the correct parameters. I often work in /trunk, then we decide a fix/feature needs to go in the current release branch... automating this would be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried subversive but switched back to subclipse because of a single issue which happened to make subversive impossible to use for me.</p>
<p>svn has this feature where it shows "all changed paths" of a checkin. You can turn off the view that displays this in the history view. When off, subclipse does not retrieve this information. The bug in subversive is that it does retrieve this information regardless. In our case, the entire source was checked into the repository in rev 9. The change set therefore includes all paths in our repository, about 30MB worth of data if pasted into a text file. So subversive would go and download 30MB worth of data every time I wanted to look at the history of a file, and it affected all files since they are all part of the first change set. That made subversive unusable for me. </p>
<p>The one feature I am missing from both is a "move change to branch" command which quickly and easily can move a change in trunk to a path. The equivalent of svn merge, but with automatic tag/branch detection and automatically filling in the correct parameters. I often work in /trunk, then we decide a fix/feature needs to go in the current release branch&#8230; automating this would be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/2006/10/26/subclipse-vs-subversive/comment-page-1/#comment-103439</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info on that.  And once again, thanks for the valuable article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info on that.  And once again, thanks for the valuable article.</p>
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